5/15/00
I for one totally agree with you . I mean, "taka"? please.
5/18/00
Tiger
Hello!
I'm Tiger. I visited your site quiet a while ago - great work :-)
You said you'd like to discuss about the Taka- and Kovu-thing. At first, I am a hyena fan, so I don't care sooo much about, but it's an interesting topic anyway. Earlier I always wondered, why Scar was called Scar, he must have had it from birth on. So I imagined, that maybe Mufasa and Scar had a fight when they were just born, and so Scar got his Scar and his parents named him after it.
To Kovu: well, I don't really think that he would look alike him and so on if Scar was NOT his father...
I'm open to discuss.
5/21/00
GeniusB
Dear SCAR'S personal secretary, this is geniusb I want to say that scar and "taka" are 2 different lions ,that is if "taka" can be called a lion! "taka" is weak and way to sensitive. SCAR on the other hand ,or paw is strong and powerful. In the story "in a perfect world" SCAR became like that wimp kovu! no I'm wrong ( for once.) He's lower than kovu he was taka!!!!!! how could he??? Not that I doubt the real SCAR.
5/21/00
Tiger
Your theory about how Scar obtained his name is the closest thing I've ever encountered to what I believe. Although I have no solid theory to how he obtained his namesake, I agree with you that when he was born, his parents named him Scar right off. Someone else that I once talked to has even wondered if perhaps the scar is actually a strange birthmark of some sorts, that he had when he was born. Who knows. . .?
*grin* Or maybe his mother had problems with the birth and needed someone who pulls the cubby out of her. Maybe his father scratched him by accident? But that's FAR too humanized. Hey, did you know Taka doesn't just mean "trash" (after all, who'd name one's child trash/scum???), it also means "wish", and that would suit Scar better.
As to the reference to Scar being Kovu's biological father, I feel I must remind you that it is a FACT that he's not. Disney clearly expressed that particular fact in the movie twice, and I don't understand why some still choose to ignore it and continue to believe otherwise. KOVU IS NOT SCAR'S SON. And that's that.
I'm one of the persons, who still ignore the fact. I think, SP is also just a "possibility" how TLK could continue, alike all the pretty fanfiction out there. And because it's a sequel, I take the right to choose what to believe and what not. Scar can't really be Kovu's father, because Kiara and he would be related then, and that wouldn't fit Undamaged-World-Disney, I think you mentioned it on your page, too.
10/01/00
STMATLUTHERAN@cs.com
I agree with your "Taka"rant.I myself hate the name and continuously flamed the authors of "Chronicles of The Pridelands"in an attempt to bring light on their stupidity and they replied with this quote:"Kiara's original name was Chaka.Rhymes with "Scar's"real name,eh?". I often wonder why Lion King fans other than I worship and burn sacrifices to lies,disagree strongly with the truth,and do this disagreeing by flaming,screaming,ranting about your character,making a picture of your character with a big red 'X' through it,or all of the above.Admins sometimes even kick out people who know the true name of our beloved Lion King villain:Scar the King.
(Via forum)
11/20/00
HippoHop
This is my firm opinion, attacker. If you want to insult us, do it by yourself, because we don't need it. So if that's all you have bto say, then don't come back.
--Khami
PS: Taka, Taka, Taka! We aren't morons.
My reply:
Oooh. . .the first flame. . .it starts again. My reply to you is this: You're an idiot. Go jump off something very tall and remove yourself from my gene pool. *Grins* Nice talking to you.
Oh, and uh, yeah, you ARE morons. Smile now! *Takes a picture of you and adds it to her ever growing collection of people she doesn't care about*
*Gives you a big sarcastic thumbs up*
(Via forum)
11/21/00
HippoHop
You are EVIL, the devil's mate. Listen to yourself for once, this is supposed to be a friendly discussion. You just wait till Mhisani sees what you have done to his message board and he'll probably kick you out! Cause OUT is where you belong, Outsider!
Oh, and BTW, if you want to insult me, I suggest you email me at msf2@rcn.com, so the wonderful innocent people who have enough self-control to keep away from evil souls like you, don't have to deal with your arrogance. (smiles sarcastically, mocking her rival) Goodnight!
My reply:
"I am EVIL"? "The Devil's mate"? *Rolls her eyes* Oh-my-god. Could you be any more immature? And as for the "wonderful innocent people" who don't want to deal with my "evil soul" - and what's with that? Can we say "melodramtic" or what? Only sappy characters in soap operas say things like "evil soul". Grow up - and arrogance, no one's forcing them to read this post, and who told you you could speak on their behalf anyway?
If you're going to flame me and insist on carring on this stupid and pointless insulting contest, then save your breath, because from now on I don't want to respond to you unless you have something intellegent to say or at least have a half decent argument. I have better things to do.
11/21/00
Snowy
Read the self-proclaimed rant (I do those, too, hehe) and well, let me say first off I'm not gonna take sides on the issue. Heaven's forbid what kind of trouble that could get me in on either side. Just wanted to comment on the book that mentioned the name Taka. I own it. Point of fact, I've got that whole TLK:Six New Adventures set (glorious glorious eBay, hehe). It's not as bad as people claim (or at least, not from my point of view). The folks smashing it into the ground are probably the same people who are smashing SP into the ground (say what you will about that movie, but I think it's more an issue as to what satisfies those folks in regards to items related to TLK must be at least the caliber of the original, which we all know to be virtually impossible).
Cape Buffalo did, btw, not wildebeest. Don't know how that rumor got started. :p Our young anit-hero (hey, I like the black-maned lion too! :D ) had been trying to get older brother Muffy into trouble by setting it up so he would get into a spat with the head buffalo (one Boma by name) over at one of the few remaining waterholes. Boma chases Muffy, while his younger brother gets a good laugh. Boma's herd (we know how ornery buffalo are) decended on him because of the stunt and of course he was closer than his fleeing brother. Got swacked by one of the horns. Mufasa comes to the *cough* rescue *cough* right before Ahadi finally arrives to see off the buffalo. To your credit, Scar changes his name by his own choice. Nothing's said about whether or not he liked Taka or what, but he chooses Scar so that he "won't forget" what happened at the waterhole. I get the impression it'll have later bearing in the stampede.
It's not an unsanctioned book, either. Came from a Grolier's book club (get it through the mail thing), hence the rarity. Disney had to give permission, since it's a Disney book club. Also, to the credit of the books, there's a considerable deal more effort that went into them than what I've seen in some of the other "cannon" Disney books ::shudders at some of the things that make it onto the shelves where "good" and "bad" are the only adjectives used and the drawings are worse than low-grade fanart:: They're definitely better than that kind of tripe.
Oh, and your guess is as good as mine as to why anyone would name their kid something that translates to "trash" or "rubbish". That can't be good for self-esteem. :p
--Snowy, who can at once be too neutral and too dang opinionated ;D
(Via forum)
11/22/00
HippoHop
Then don't, and I'm proud to defend my pride so if my pride disagrees with me then let them speak, I'll listen. And I'm interested as to why you're in upendi with this evil lion. Go to the argument topic, then give your say. And I may be 15 years old, but I beg you, WATCH THE LANGUAGE!
(Via forum)
11/22/00
Mhisani
*sigh* Well, Im not going to ban scars presonal secretary at all, We all have points and view which i respect however the one thing I dont like is the way it was put as in a kinda "Screw you guys , you have no idea" that annoys me, If you had just come along and made a topic stating this was your view then you wouldnt have come across as being so cold. Please in future learn to get on and cut the flaming please, Brians forum closed, One reason was flaming and innapropriate content, Do you want this one to go the same way? C'mon, We are all on this planet together and well, time to be friendly and less cold, "We are one", I think if we can achieve this then I have no grounds to complain, however, I will not tolerate this attitude, Please be well and stay happy and hug plushies.....
Topic Closed
My reply:
So the forum maintainer, Mhisani (above) closed down my topic. That's that. Fineeto. Donesville. Just because of one stinkin' little brat who wouldn't stop whining. My response to HippoHop is to grow up. If you don't like what I'm standing up for, then don't read it.
My response to Mhisani is, hey, thanks for not banning me from the forum and all, but closing down my topic was pretty lame. This is a forum, where people come to state their views. If you can't take a little bit of arguing and flames, then you won't last long. Oh, and nice little bit of heartfilled drama there: "We are all on this planet together and well, time to be friendly and less cold, We are one". Send it to Oprah, not me.
12/2/00
Unknown
On some points of your various rants I can agree. Taka is a character from Chronicles of the PLs and has as much bearing on Scar from TLK as a hamster does, that stupid book "A Tale of Two Brothers" nonwithstanding.
However on your so called family rant: Why wouldn't Scar have cubs? Personally I find it very hard to swallow that he would allow some strange cub to proceed him. He's not that nice a guy. Scar's ego as it's clear in TLK he has a huge one, would mean nothing less than his flesh and blood would be good enough for him. Also disliking children has little to do with it, just because he impregnated someone wouldn't hold that he'd be a great father. Just means he was interested in spreading himself around.
Face it SP is a mess. Poorly done with a half assed plot which makes no sense. I take what I first saw in the work tape as what the animators and directors really meant before execs. screwed with it. Zira was supposed to be Scar's widow and Kovu was supposed to be his son(that line in My Lullaby should have been "until he learns to be a killer, just like dear old dad") but was changed at the last minute like the rest of the stuff(so sloppily that Zira is still smiling as she "accidently" slips off the cliff at the end. Couldn't even bother to change that tiny bit of animation, eh Disney?) Inbreeding? They're lions, lions in the wild do that sort of thing all the time. The directors and animators just forgot about Disney's pc stance on everything until after they had sent the rough film in.
But like I said SP is such a horrible mess that it's hard to take any of it seriously or even keep it in line with TLK. It's garbage plain and simple and badly rewritten garbage at that. Disney can put throw away lines saying "Kovu isn't Scar's son" in all they like but if you look at it logically it makes no sense.
Sorry but my favorite black maned bastard would never be nice enough to adopt anyone ;)
1/24/01
Epantiras
I agree with you: Scar and Taka are two different lions. I've never heard the name Taka or his mysterious storybook. I think that all of Scar's deeds depends from his egoism and he kill his brother without the slighest compunction: it's clear especially near the end of the film. Probably Taka is a chatter's invention, made for wrote an 'original' fan-fiction or for spread rumours in the TLK-chat.
And now a question: why the outlanders, 'born in grief, raised in hate', change so quickly their thought abaut Simba? Yes, it's a very stupid end for a quite good sequel.
4/8/01
Camille Pearl
Thanks for sending me the story. Yeah, just like you said, I think it just can't be true what that story tells, and that people should call Scar Taka. That story don't actually prove anything...if Disney makes a movie about that subject it can only prove is the story's theory true or not.
But this far, as you said, nobody should believe that Scar's cubhood name was Taka. I agree with you about that think, I even read your Taka rant.
PS. Sorry that my English is so bad...hope you understand!
4/10/01
Zuri
LONG LIVE SCAR!!!!!! He and Zira are the coolest. ooohh and soo cute!! Taka? what a crappy name.
5/11/01
Erica
Man, reading all that... you're surrounded by idiots. Heh, I guess that was funny... childhood name, but I never knew it meant 'trash' or 'rubbish'. Now I hate it. But you know what? (By the way, I have a messed up imagination.) I think he did have some other name, but, I think he may had done something bad as a kid, (most likely to Mufasa) and was punished with a scar, and either a new name, or just just called 'Scar' as a mean nickname afterword. Oh yeah! And I know that Kovu is not his bio. son, but do you know what happened there? How did Ziea have a kid who looked sorta like him, yet not have... any 'action'? Ah well.
6/9/01
Jamala Starhe Arisis
Okay first I hate the name Taka. It sounds dumb and that trash stuff is weird. I think Hatari (wasn't that a video game system) meaning danger would be better. I found it from a fan fic where his mother died giving birth to him, and so his father hated him. But the why would a father name a sone trash? Why would a father name a son lion. Also sadly, I believe Disney made a few publications of a book that showed how Scar got his scar, and that his name was Taka before. Its just a rumor so don't be stupid and believe it. I think we should agree on a new name, and throw rocks at anyone who doesn't change their fan fics.
Now on the Kovu thing. Kovu WAS NOT Scar son! He wouldn't even adopt that little fuzz ball. Now I think Kovu's real father lied to Zira saying that Scar's dying wish was to have Kovu be king. Why would Zira be around to hear it anyway? No lionesses were fighting against Simba (watch the TLK guys.) Now Vitani and Nuka, thats different. Face it, Scar is a guy, guys like doing the wild thing. He wouldn't want to be a virgin villain, would he? There is no birth control for lions! And Nuka's stupidness must be from Zira.
6/27/01
Petit Lion
Ah, I will never understand these so-called "TLK fans". So many of them are completely out of touch with reality. This Taka crap is just one element of it. Just one single element which is part of a much bigger mess. One person thinks of a dumb idea, and everyone else thinks it's great and latches onto it like flies in a garbage dump. This Taka thing was something that appeared in a little kiddy book intended for five year olds. Some author on the Grolier staff just wrote and illustrated this book, and suddenly all these TLK fans are taking it as fact. No, my friends, this isn't the real story of Scar. This was something some random author and illustrator came up with. Get with reality, you pseudo-TLK fans.
While I'm at it, there's one more thing I want to criticize about these so-called fans. What is this crap with the fanfics? The fanfic I'm especially focused on in this discussion right now is that Chronicles of the Pridelands tale. Apparently, a large number of TLK fans are treating this fanfic like it's the real story. Forget about that one animated movie. What's it called again? Oh yeah. The Lion King. Nope, sorry, that hour-and-a-half long movie isn't the real story. The Chronicles of the Pridelands is what counts. NOT! DUH! Get your heads outta the clouds. The real story is what appears on the screen for the duration of the movie. Not this damned fanfic. All that Chronicles story is, is that some random bunch of TLK fans got together and wrote that strange history *supposedly* based on TLK, all the while doing such sins as changing events and *gasp* changing names! And all these damned TLK fans are, yes, acting like a herd of sheep. Fanfics are being based on this Chronicles fanfic which was written by just average, regular old Joe TLK fans. There have been some other things I've seen on the Internet meant to add insult to injury. One of the first TLK sites I ever looked at on the web was some big long family tree describing these nonexistent characters that appeared in that fanfic. These TLK fans think that using the decidedly cheap method of typing in a bunch of random words into an online Swahili dictionary and calling them names makes them official TLK characters. Wrong. Dead wrong again. The only TLK characters that exist are the ones in The Lion King. Yeah. You heard me. That hour-and-a-half long animated movie. And, maybe, also Simba's Pride, too, but that just depends on your own personal opinion. As to people saying Kovu is Scar's son in fanfics, I don't care. I don't care for fanfics, and Kovu is not Scar's son.
So get with the program all you TLK fans. I'm a fan of TLK. Not a fan of The Chronicles of the Pridelands, nor a fan of fanfics. The real story and characters are the ones that appear in TLK, not the mess of black-and-white names that appear in fanfics. 'Nuff said. Long live TLK.
6/27/01
Snowy
Hey, decided to add some more of my cents to the Scar/Taka debate here if you don't mind (figured since people seemed to overlook my last comment, I'd put it here, too [if you don't mind], so that it stands perhaps a better chance of being seen). Unfortunately, this time around I'm afraid that I can't be quite as neutral or perhaps diplomatic as I would have liked. I don't intend this to be a flame, but please not that my hackles are up, to say the least.
Question: what makes an animated fanfic (SP) different or any more credible than a written one (TLK:6NA)? I honestly wish I knew why people seem to think that "if only how Scar got his scar were animated" or "if only there were a movie that said his birth name was 'Taka'." What suddenly gives celluloid so much credit over the written word? Heck, those TLK:6NA have fewer inconsistencies and "oopsies" between them than SP does.
Which brings me to another point: just because you don't like what something says, don't go defaming it. I *have* TLK:6NA. In a minute, I could have it sitting on my lap as I type this. Don't tell me that it's existence is a rumor or that the name Taka was thought up in some chat. I'll tell you that you're spreading lies. Don't believe me? The maintainer of The One and Only Scar Site has (or at least had, last I checked) the set. I could name several other individuals in the fandom (some well known, others not) who have had their paws upon it at some point in time. Don't like that it exists, two letters: T and S. Take that for what you will, but those books are not fan fiction, they are Disney fact.
Further, I wonder how many of you people who proclaim to hate the name Taka have actually gone and looked up the meaning of the word. Yes, it means "trash" and other such things in a similar vein. However, it also means "a bolt of cloth" (irrelevant, perhaps), "to ask" (quite appropriate name for a curious cub, and I don't think anyone could claim that a lion as intelligent as Scar is portrayed to be would be anything but curious when young), and "to wish" (enigmatic, but not derrogatory in any way). Also, there is the intriguing "taka shari," which means "to defy" or "to challenge." You tell me that that's not applicable to the character of Scar.
And finally, that which truly gets my blood boiling. How dare you. How *dare* you even propose to force your will upon the creative mind. What right do you have to tell another what to write? That, people, is known as "censorship." You, SPS, who was so irked, so indignant, that your thread should be shut down because you wouldn't comply -- you would dare make jest of such a comment as to *stone* an author for not sharing your views. Hypocrit. For that, I've lost respect for you people. I could handle the foul language, I could even tolerate to some mild, convoluted extent the flames and intolerance you had for others. But this...this. Hell, when do you plan to start burning people on crosses? I am an artist and I can tell you that art, be it written or not, is an expression of the soul. What right do you have to that? I myself am writing a fanfic and I have every intention of using the name Taka as I see fit to use it. That is my unrevocable creative license. I have done my research (I cannot say the same for all here or all those who have spoken before me); I have seen to it that the meaning so oft flung about by protesters to the name is avoided and another from the list above chosen in its stead. But I did that for *me* because I could not conceive of parents naming their child something that means just "trash" or having had that meaning in mind. And I will not change that for anyone.
My reply:
First off, I apologize if I've overlooked an earlier post from you about this issue. Did you post it in the guestbook before? I skimmed through past entries but can't find another one from you. . .perhaps I missed it again. If you're referring instead to the e-mail response you sent me some time back, that was indeed posted in the rant response page with the others, and either way, it was in no way meant to be "overlooked".
Secondly, I don't want to start barking myself, but please note that I am not claiming that the existence of TLK:6NA is a myth anymore. I received a scanned copy of the entire book via e-mail from someone in possession of it - to be perfectly honest, I believe it was you who sent it to me. . .please correct me if I'm wrong - and that very day I did in fact update my rant so it no longer viewed the book as being nonexistent. A record of that update is recorded in the revision log if you feel the need to check - it was sometime in March, I believe.
In no way do I want to appear as if I'm unable to solidly give backup to my rants and claims, but unfortunately I just can't seem to properly word why I believe and feel so strongly about this issue. I wish I could, but I just can't. I think part of it is the way I, myself, have built this particular character up in my mind. Like any other member of the fandom, my perception of him is in some ways something my own head and imagination has built itself around the information that's been given in the movie - the way he acts, talks, moves, and with those also evolves a vague unique history and past that, as any fan has for any character, becomes fact for them alone. Some people take characteristics from fiction and other sources - I choose not to simply because the TLK movie was the first and original, and that, in my logic, makes it the only factual and reliable material, and it's hard for someone's head to accept something that's been introduced that throws off everything they've subconsciensously built up to be fact. In my case, I simply can't accept something that changes my own facts until when and if it's ever declared in a movie. That's the way my mind works. I'm not sure if that made sense or not. . .please keep in mind I'm trying the best I can to explain this and at the same time remain mature enough so you and others don't flood my inbox with nasty flames, and also so you don't lose so much respect for me that we become on such bad terms that you state you wish your fan art and any possible future work to be taken down off this site. I don't want that and I don't think this whole thing is worth that anymore.
I'm not even going to bother to try to fight back and reply to what else you wrote, simply because I know that if I do this whole thing is going to continue on for days, and to be perfectly honest, I'm tired of replying to these types of responses because I just keep saying the same thing over and over. Besides, it won't change anything - you'll continue to believe what you want, and I'll continue to believe what I want. Perhaps I have built this up to much throughout time; perhaps I have gone about things in a way that hasn't been exactly the most tactful; and maybe in ways this whole thing has in some way made me a hypocrite in others eyes, but that's simply the way I am. I don't care what other people think about me. I really don't. I will, however, not retract my rant and opinions, but recent experiences have made me start to think perhaps it's time to revise it somewhat, for the sole purpose of avoiding these types of stupid conflicts in the future. I will keep accepting responses to it, but I will no longer be responding to them because I've found that it's not worth it. So do what you want - keep referring to him as Taka. I could really care less at this point.
7/18/01
Koromon
I think that Scar is sorta like Kovu's father, in a way. He looks ALMOST the same when he's grown up. It's Genetic!
7/24/01
Blair A. Bernard
I checked out your site, and I have comments on your 'Taka' rant -- (no 'flaming', though).
I don't like calling him 'Taka' either, or anything other than 'Scar'. I could babble more on the subject, but I can't think clearly right now, and I thought I should reply to your e-mail asap.
8/15/01
Raechel
Hi, I just read your rant on your Scar website about Scar's name, and about Kovu being his child and I totally agree with you. I mean, if Scar's real name was Taka, they would have said something about it. And if Kovu was his son, they wouldn't have put the lines in the movies stating he's not. Also, I have read some fanfictions saying that he and Zira had this thing and it stated in some of those fanfictions that Scar didn't even like the name "Scar," so if Zira loved Scar (supposedly) wouldn't she have called him Taka, (if his name was Taka) just to please him? Again I totally agree with all that you have said.
8/30/01
Lord Danos
Taka? Taka? My worshipped, revered, villain-of-all-villains...TAKA? I figured this was some cheap-ass Disney maneuver to deliver Scar's "inner, sensitive side"...I figured it was part of Simba's Pride, which I have never bothered to see. To be sure, I looked up the script over the internet and read the whole thing through...nowhere. No Taka. Just Scar. So...what's Taka? I learned it meant "garbage" in Swahili...this just added to the insult. But it got worse. I started reading some fanfics, and...Taka. Taka Taka Taka...what happened to Scar? What happened to my devious, maniacal, charismatic, Hitler-esque Scar? Taka was the kind, misunderstood, caring brother of Mufasa, who had...stolen his girlfriend? That clinched it. "Taka" became maniacal and dastardly and evil...over Sarabi? Now, I understand that there was a scene not animated in TLK in which Scar hits on Sarabi, and that's fine...but to think that Mufasa somehow "stole" her away from "Taka"?
*sigh* I thought TLK was over. But then I found Scar: The True Lion King, and yes! There were others! Others who hated Taka, and revered my maniacal Scar as much as I! So I thank you, err..."sps"...for spreading the true word about the greatest villain of all time...Scar.
9/29/01
GeniusARB
You are soooo right. I've sent you mail before but under a different name . I love your site and views. And your rant is amazing . Thank you. Thank you. And "Taka" ? Please. You may remeber that part of my previous letter.
11/10/01
STMATLUTHERAN@cs.com
I agree with you: Scar's name is Scar, not Taka or Hatari. I mean, what parent would name their child hate and danger, the meanings of Taka and Hatari? The latter is from Rocio Orzoco's "The Legacy", where he's named Hatari, danger, after "killing" Kitok when he was born. The fic itself is the best I've seen, and I read fanfics, about 5 every day. O.o Of course, Kimba (Kimba the White Lion, or Emporor Leo)means dung, but hey...
Now about Kovu and Scar: Twice, it's said in the film, for you "Disney's-holy-I'll-always-believe-it-no-matter-what-there-are-talking-lions" types, that they're not related. TWICE. I don't believe Scar is called anything other or that he's Kovu's father. You try to make me, and that is what's known as being a jerk. I've heard Scar-gets-a-scar tales all over. He either is slapped by Sarabi, gets it ripped out via badger, or gets kicked. In others, he fights a hawk, is cursed at birth, gets a birthmark, or fights Muffy and loses. Unless Di$ney (the dollar sign...wonder how *THAT* got there...;) ) says Scar is his nickname or that he's Kovu's father, I disagree.
11/18/01
Hima
Hmm...I just wanted to say You are only person I met who hate that damn Taka and I wanna say I fully agree wuth you.
11/20/01
Alvin Binghim
This is the only ( and I mean ONLY ) time I am even slightly against you. Well I think that SCAR could maybe have kids and teach them his ways and continue his noble line forever. That and the fact that hey , even evil geniuses have to feel the need to procreate right ? Well maybe not. I don't know it's just wishful thinking , really that he might feel a teensy bit lonesome huh ? But trust me what you said about villainous love makes perfect sense to me. Later dudette.
PS LONG LIVE SCAR , THE ONE TRUE LION KING! MUAHAHAHAHAHAAAHA!
12/24/01
STMATLUTHERAN@cs.com
Ok, just another response:
Taka does indeed mean a host of things. I had to regrettably use the name in my fan-fic until he gets a scar and decides to be called Scar. Now, in the start, Ahadi hates the cub and names him Taka, stating he is rubbish. A young lioness, however, is quick to point out that it means "wish" as well, and that he'll wish he was the heir. His curiosity hints at the meaning "to ask".
But, hey, these idiots are taking it with a grain of salt. I mean, believe what you want to believe. Flame Scar-lovers or Taka-lovers. Do what you want, people. No-one will back down from their post and stoop to the level of those TLK-fans out there who say "TLK3 will be about this and Scar should be called this and he got his scar like this" and so forth.
On the subject of Kovu and Scar: Kovu is Scar's chosen heir. Not his son! I even dreamed up a now-dropped idea that he was found to be Nuka's son and Zira swiped him to say he was Scar's heir to make her plot work. Sure, Scar would have NEVER adopted a cub. But why not Zira? Hmmm?
1/4/02
Jenny
Hi there, I just read your ranting and what not and I can agree with you that the name Taka doesn't give him justice...rubbish, filth? Sounds like a name for some ordinary mangy lion. I also really can't agree that Scar is his really name...obviously...but anyhow your very right in saying that Scar was a no good down right dirty son of a bitch...but that's what makes him such a great villian. He also is the most personified animal of all by using this "human mind" to defeat his the hero aside of a real lions attributes which is strength...I admire your arguements but keep them at a half sane level unlike the Taka-fans have poured on you.
2/28/02
Zuri Cheetah
Heh, I read your updated rant, and while its more mature, you still come off strong as a true Scar fan. *Pats Sps on the back*
Too bad I'm a Taka fan.......*runs and hides*
I dunno, I like the fact that his name was changed for TLK (It just sounds more appropriate than "Taka")
I think that your theory about Scar being "naturally evil" is true. But I just like to believe that whole "He-once-had-goodness-inside-him" thing really happened :P
I'm such a sucker for crap like that. ^_^
4/5/02
Zuri Cheetah
*Sighs sadly and prepares to be stoned to death*
Looks like I'm the only one here who actually *likes* the Taka/Scar transformation. *whimpers*
I personally can't imagine someone being *born* evil: Mischievous, yes, Evil - No.
But I like the name 'Hatari' a little better than Taka, it just seems better fitting.
I'm personally more up for debate on the Kovu issue: I don't care what the f*ck Disney's final product of Simba's Pride says (Which sucked anyway) Nuka, Vitani, AND Kovu are Scar's offspring! Thats the way Disney originally planned it! (Back in 1996. Plus why the hell does Kovu have this spitting image of Scar if he's not his son?! HUH?! WHY?! ANSWER THAT!!) I know, I
know, about that whole inbreeding issue, but Simba and Nala are closer related than Kiara and Kovu. Plus, LIONS INBREED ANYWAY!!!!!
*breathes heavily, and then realizes its just a movie*.....
*Ahem*